Ok, back to AfterTime and BeforeTime. I discovered today that BeforeTime was blown up after it was looted. Mind sharing why that happened, and who decided it?
I asked Hunyo16 to do it in an attempt to discover any possible buried chests because those are mostly plot areas if I remembered correctly. Anything wrong with it or did the tnt somehow damaged AfterTime?
You’re entirely certain that was the case? I’ve been to other factions you took over, and haven’t noticed that much tnt damage, if at all. I’ll actually go check now
It really depends on what faction we are looting, we normally dig straight down for checking purposes, rarely use tnt even if I didn’t take over the faction(disbanded on its own) and sometimes not even bothered checking it. Also found the proof after a long search
but then again, anything wrong with it? We are not allowed to use TNT anymore?
Well, I’ve visited quite a bunch of factions you’ve looted in the past. No sign of tnt. I must say, I’m a bit disappointed, though not surprised. See, your friend over there, he told me a different story. Which means one of you is lying. If you’re lying, that’s one more thing to your ban. But if he’s lying, well, we can’t just let that go past in a serious case like this and will have to take action. That plus his involvement in this whole issue. I was already considering banning the rest of your accomplices. So, which one is it, yarked? Who’s the liar and who’s telling the truth?
yea we rarely use tnt, maybe check the world border corners underground for sign of tnt(not sure tho)? As I said,
I honestly forgot the existence of GlobalArmy until I clicked into that post A loophole in faction plugin
Is the proof (Astelon_ - controlling 3 factions at a time - yarked - #11 by yarked) above not clear enough? The reason of “chunk check” is
While “tnt check the plots” is just a shorter sentence for “chunk check and you may use tnt to check the plots”. Mind telling the story he told? Since when the usage of TNT has become illegal?
A short version of his story is that, BeforeTime was tnted to make king not want to rebuild the factions. Thus, AfterTime would just end up disbanding at some point. I’ll ask you one more time, which is the true story? Is it yours, that BeforeTime was tnted to look for hidden chests, or hunyo’s, that it was tnted to make king not want to come back and stop AfterTime from disbanding?
I see, I think I understand the situation now, and believe that it’s just a misunderstanding? but yeah my motive is just to look for hidden chests
Well you see, he spent quite a lot of time retrieving the concrete and was a bit tired by the time he finished. In order to give him the motivation or morale-boost, I permitted him to use tnt for chunk checking since I rarely let anyone or myself to use tnt. As you can see from the picture, he was tired and was reluctant to chunk check in the beginning. Maybe the story he provided is what truly made him to do so. Actually, how did you ask him the question? Is it
“Why did you TNT BeforeTime?” or
“Why did you guys TNT BeforeTime?” or another way
Small difference yet a huge difference for the result/answer, do you see where I’m going with this?
Not buying your story. Not much to support it, honestly. I’ll consider if to ban him tomorrow. I probably will. I don’t appreciate being lied to, and if he didn’t lie, but you also didn’t lie, I’m honestly not sure the server needs people like him. Of course, coupled with the shady and illegal stuff he’s been involved with.
If I’m being honest, using tnt to check the plots in BeforeTime is kinda stupid, given that there’s literally nothing underneath them. But if you say that you weren’t lying; or well, weren’t lying about wanting to check them with tnt. Either way, use this night to really consider about who was honest and who was not.
BeforeTime plots for reference.
Yes it is as you said and from
, I allowed him to use TNT to check the plots, to look for hidden chests, nothing else.
Updated Astelon_ - controlling 3 factions at a time - yarked - #7 by yarked to avoid confusion
I disagree on how you’re going to ban me because of “lying”
Well of course you can, you’re a dev
I just want to say, I did not lie, with the fact that it’s the truth: “to make sure it won’t get used anymore”
It would be a lie, only if yarked did not permit me to do so
It would be a lie, only if yarked ORDERED me to do so
And if he didn’t permit me to blow up BeforeTime, both of us wouldn’t.
Yarked had permitted me to bombard BeforeTime as he has told in this post. Meaning that, I could TNT BeforeTime whenever I want to, so by then, it was all up to me to decide whether should I blow up that faction or not.
Telling you that I blew up BeforeTime as “to make sure it won’t get used anymore” and it is the truth because it was my action decided freely by myself.
“PERMITTED” by him not “ORDERED”.
→ like dropouts? like me? like how you know that I’m having a high chance of being forced to drop out of school in the next 2 weeks?
ye, they probably don’t
so my assumption is correct and that none of us was lying
To avoid misunderstandings, I simply only gave him the permission to use TNT to check the plots for hidden chest, nothing else.
No need to put up any quarrel here @Hunyo16 , this is a ban appeal, did you get permission from anyone to post here?
Well, things are much clearer now. This is sorted out with you then, yarked. Hunyo, I’ll expect an appeal from you.
Another thing I want addressed, yarked. Please explain what is the recruitment process (basically what you do when you recruit a player) of your faction, and also explain what you personally do when you recruit someone.
Also hunyo, I doubt anyone’s gonna judge you if you’re a dropout or not. There’s plenty people with all sorts of educational backgrounds, the only thing we as a server expect is to act decent and follow the rules.
I disagree with the statement above and refuse to appeal to the reason I am banned for
For my case: “Destroying the land next to a faction to make members not want to take care of it”
According to Rule 2, General In-Game Rules:
“Building in the wilderness is not allowed. Always claim before building. Mining/looting in Wilderness, however, is allowed.”
My action, did not violate any parts of the rule as it is only for “minorly” destroying the land which was wilderness at the same time as I placed down the first TNT.
And if you charged me with Rule 3, Behavior Rules if my first disagreement was admitted:
“Stealing from or griefing other players is not allowed.”
It would also be wrong because the place was and is wilderness. You can only charge me with this only if both King and I were in either AfterTime or BeforeTime.
Then if you accuse me with this reason:
despite the irritating and ugliness of the terrain that has always been griefed around the spawn area which no one has ever reported on or getting banned for griefing the area then my ban is unreasonable according to the situation.
I once messaged 32294 to check the logs of the griefs at the wilderness around our base, he was our member and still hasn’t got banned because of that.
The current ban on me would only work if Rule 2, General In-Game Rules was given a clearer description which could have been added:
"NOTICE: - “DESTROYING A LAND NEXT TO A FACTION WITH THE INTENTION OF GRIEFING IS NOT ALLOWED, THIS RELATES TO RULE #3 OF BEHAVIOR SECTION”
even you admitted it then banning me instead of warning which could have been a thing to give rules a fix
And if you accused me with this
after my disagreement was either conceded or refused and added up with another thing for my ban then it would be still unreasonable for because of my action was absolute and did not involve with the intention of going around the loopholes.
“To make sure it won’t get used anymore”
This line which you have probably accepted as the truth and decided to ban me because of that particular reason then the truth I told you is something to prove that this disagreement is absolute and did not involve with the last notice of Server and Forums Rules.
I have always followed the rules, I have always acted decent towards other players, spent all my time instead of studying just to take part in this community even after getting harassed over some ancient debris. And now you say:
It is just so unfair to me and favoured to some parties
- I am also not violating Rule 6, Rules of ban appeals, I am cooperating with you to get me unbanned out of the current reason and the reason that you have banned me for is wrong according to my disagreements above, therefore, I have the rights to tell whether it is wrong or not.
I also want to defend for both Und3rline and K4nt_Hui13 with their case: “Account sharing, again”
- You’re banning them blindly without any evidences, both of them are siblings and they have also requested accounts for one IP. It does not mean that Und3rline used or would use K4nt_Hui13’s account by accessing his account at her free will after yarked mentioned that we would tell K4nt_Hui13 to join AfterTime.
- Und3rline, K4nt_Hui13 or I could have accused you with Staff Abuse for banning without any official provided evidences according to
but we did not
- I want you to state out where I am truly wrong at. If there is any fair reasons given after my disagreement is conceded, I will appeal. If there is none, then consider unbanning.
- Und3rline/K4nt_Hui13 to be unbanned
- Stop with the criticizing towards Vanguard, there are other factions with the same things that you were criticizing as we are having, I don’t want to mention them here
and of course you can do whatever you want to because you’re a dev.
if you decided not to let me appeal after this then there is no fairness in this
I have also noticed that you let King to have control of AfterTime, I still don’t know if he still has the permission there
But currently only Stevenl_Slaaa is left in the faction and if King has the officer perms then won’t it just violate the The first rule of the Sub-Faction rules? Dragy, Sahara and now this, I know it is an inheritance thing but won’t it will technically violate the rule too?
And before that you invited Steven back to the faction even if it had technically disbanded, isn’t this one party favoured by you and is against us?
If you want to ban us accordingly to the rules then you must concede my objection.
If you want to ban us because we violated it morally then do it fairly without any favours for any parties.
I want justice for our faction.
I failed physics
Ok, your explanation (from pms) is really interesting, yarked. I’d argue it’d have been better to limit what new members get access to, but that’s something for the future. Next thing I’m curious about, why do you send ally requests to every faction? Hopefully there’s no sensitive info in your response this time, because I’d rather have the appeal in one place, and not split up everywhere.
Hunyo, make your own appeal.
And I failed lots of classes.
Since you brought up staff abuse: Have Und3rline and K3nt_Hui13 made an appeal where said evidence can be shown to them? Have you asked for any evidence of your ban until now, and why would we disclose the evidence of their ban to you? What do they even have to do with you that you believe you’re in a position to intercede and appeal for them and make demands for their unban?
We don’t care, half my class failed physics and some of our staff haven’t even completed school, it’s unfortunate you’re going through problems in life but it has no relevance whatsoever to this ban appeal, stick to what is relevant
Don’t reply to this post with any arguments, and don’t bring up completely irrelevant details in the appeal you make. If you want to be unbanned quickly, stick to your part of the story and stop being short-tempered over a Minecraft server ban for no apparent reason other than frustration.
Okay sure yea it requires improvements as always anyway.
You mentioned something of me allying the faction to get access to their f home and mark their coords for when they time out. While that may seem to be true but actually no. I’ve been making allies to every online faction i see in /f list for quite a long time before I even got to know about raiding and the ability to use their /f home. I’m pretty sure logs can proof this. Doesn’t really matter if that faction did something bad to us, and well, not mentioning names here to avoid bringing up dramas back unnecessarily. It’s just for a sense of achievement/satisfaction when I see that number(total allies) in /f relation list. Didn’t know this is somehow breaking the server rules again, sorry about that.
If it’s simply to get the most allied factions, why do you not even talk with people from these factions? And why do you remove the ally request after a while?
It’s not against the rules, but it does fit in the pattern of gaining easy access to the faction before it times out. Just how you check the warps of every member to see if they lead to that faction.
uh what your question kinda doesn’t make sense for me, like why’d I want to remove them from ally if I want to get most allied factions, tho that reminds me of something, which is someone allying my fac, then remove us from ally after accomplishing his/her goals, what do you think about this? oh if you mean me removing ally request after they went offline and did not accept, main reason is to avoid /f rel w being messy, not sure if that makes sense for you. Also probably because they didn’t notice the message. When they noticed and asked me what’s about it, I explained to them, and if they refuse it then I will stop sending the ally request to them.
Just want to clarify, we are allowed to use /warp info p and /warp list right?